Curse

Tigers Anger · Apr 16, 2006, 12:30 AM // 00:30

A E/Mo who uses Blinding Flash on a monk. (I was tired and sleepy...)

RuPee · Apr 16, 2006, 03:36 AM // 03:36

a guild group i picked up a w/r. we told him to tank while rangers and casters were doing thier thing, but all he brought was a bow and all ranger skills. i asked him why he didnt just be a ranger primary and he said he liked how a warrior has better armor

Bone Jangle · Apr 16, 2006, 05:24 AM // 05:24

I've done a bunch of stupid things, myself... often due to either not paying attention (or just a lapse of intelligence

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Yeah, that caster will be much better off blinded/weakened!

Diversion on a pet? Sounds good!

Nature's Renewal + curses build... genious! (This was more of a party problem)

(Upon entering a TA match with a guild-mate)
Me: Er... whoops... forgot to switch back from my Saccer build...
guild-mate: lol, I'm a rezmer

This is the kind of thing that I immediately regret.

Murder In China · Apr 16, 2006, 05:28 AM // 05:28

Found the picture of a Monk/Warrior using Rebirth+Frenzy...

ExDeity · Apr 16, 2006, 09:33 AM // 09:33

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Originally Posted by Thargor

This skill does not require a bow.
It is just as efective on a sword or axe. Same goes for apply poison. Don't be so fast to judge something as being stupid. It may come as a surprise but there may just be someone out there that knows a little something that you dont!

Are you not actually thinking of Apply Poison, instead? Or perhaps, Conjure Flame (Frost, etc)?

Kindle ARROWS affects just ARROWS, my friend.

Please don't counter with

"Ignite Arrows made my fire sword swing t3h fire damage r0fl".

B Ephekt · Apr 16, 2006, 09:53 AM // 09:53

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Originally Posted by SisterMercy

There's no reason those two should be on the same skillbar. Arcane Echo is simply a waste of energy. I get tired of people expecting me to use AC when going as an SS necro. AC (15E) + SS (15E) + SS (15E) = a big chunk of my energy reserve as a necro. As mesmers often run with 45 energy, doing something similar is a quick energy death.

If you’re not echoing SS then you’re really only a ½ way effective “SS necro” in my opinion. When playing any other character, I will always accept an echo SS over a normal SS for my groups, because casting one SS is almost a waste if you have nukers.

When playing my N/Me I have no trouble getting 5-6 SSes off on a large mob, and after things start dieing, energy is so plentiful I can usually cast 2-3 more. (Bonus points if you have a good battery necro with you; battery won't help a single SS-caster one bit though.) I run with 49 energy (Vilnar’s set), and a 79 energy -2 regen set as my secondary, a 40% recharge set (vilnar's and collector's truncheon) as my third and use Energy Tap as a supplement. Energy tap at 9 inspiration lets me get off another SS or two, depending if soul reaping is kicking in. I really have no clue how you have such problems with energy, unless you’re just running around with poor equipment or spamming other high costs spells along with SS. (I usually cast backfire on monks/casters along with echoing SS, and still don’t have energy problems.) As long as you have a +13-15 energy 20/20 (I personally switch to a 40% recharge at times) weapons set you should be just fine with echo SS.

All that said, I’m really tired of SS necros NOT using arcane echo.

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(Need I mention that half the people echoing SS incredibly use it on the same target?)

They are just idiots, every profession has them. What's worse is when a party accepts 2 SS necros, and nobody bothers to say "hey I'm SS" until I see them calling their targets.

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These are usually the same teams that insist that I bring Spinal Shivers, only for me to find out later that no one is delivering cold damage anyway.

A lot of curses weapons do cold damage. Granted, I'd rather not be the "interrupter" when I bring Shivers, but you can do it yourself just fine... and I think this is what a lot of people expect. (thanks pre-made internet builds)

Also, echoing SS like that, I can kill faster than most nukers in FoW.

yesitsrob · Apr 16, 2006, 10:10 AM // 10:10

One of the funniest screens i've seen is in the iQ forums, a warrior using signet of midnight as his elite, gg.

Although frenzied rebirth is a pretty good one.

Things like casting backfire on warriors, dolyak signet tanks in pvp, using guilt on monks, monks using barbed trap so they can kite warriors, meteor shower rangers.... things like that are so common in randoms... it's pretty much the random arena metagame

Avarre · Apr 16, 2006, 10:33 AM // 10:33

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If you’re not echoing SS then you’re really only a ½ way effective “SS necro” in my opinion. When playing any other character, I will always accept an echo SS over a normal SS for my groups, because casting one SS is almost a waste if you have nukers.

Not gonna go into it, but outside of UW echoing SS is a huge waste in my opinion. If a level 29 mob dies in 2SS + Desecrate, why you would need echo spam in FoW? There are a lot of more effective things you could be doing with that skill slot and 15 energy than casting another SS... you have 8 skills, the purpose is not to use them to repeat 1 as much as possible.

I'm really tired of seeing every SS necro bringing echo... it's like what was said about monks in one of the guild interviews... '.. two monks is two monks, but three monks is not worth three. It's more like 2 and a half.'

SS is like that, 2 SS just spammed out is more like 1.5, because you neglect the other skills that can do more interesting things.

Anyway, I think that Mo/W with rebirth and frenzy tops just about everything... what was he thinking?

Da Cebuano · Apr 16, 2006, 12:00 PM // 12:00

I love this thread, made me chuckle quite a bit, I'll add a few:

MOnk: Runs bond on oro run but no Blessed sig and spams I have 2_40 energy!! over and over again at the very beginning of the run(yeah the first mob), spams healing breeze on other players(I'm dedicated heal monk, he dind'nt need to do anything cept keep up bonds)I then tell him to stop spamming(one is enough), he then rage quits, noob energy management FTL.

Warrior: In the same group, W/mo has full knights set and carries book, uses shields up(holding the book), this w/mo also stated he lost a super vigor by dropping his unsalvaged rune just to show everyone, only to get picked up by another player.

Ele: A previous guildie decided to go on a tombs run, he's lvl16 and wanted to tank -_-; he then told guild leader to stop being an ass hole cause its possible, and that we should've bought 3 monks so he can tank, leader got pissed, left, ele got booted out of guild, this was a trapper group BTW.

Ranger: on another tombs run(barrage) I stated we needed a puller, I appointed one cause he had dragos flatbow. He agreed, and proceeded to run up to mobs, and then run back -_- using his aggro circle to pull.

Necro: Minion Master summoning bone horrors -_-

Mesmer: Conjure phantasm, not particularly too dumb but w/ so many effective mesmer skills, waste of slot, the classic backfire on warrs and empathy on casters is great.

The undead Mesmer · Apr 16, 2006, 12:05 PM // 12:05

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Originally Posted by Da Cebuano

I love this thread, made me chuckle quite a bit, I'll add a few:

MOnk: Runs bond on oro run but no Blessed sig and spams I have 2_40 energy!! over and over again at the very beginning of the run(yeah the first mob), spams healing breeze on other players(I'm dedicated heal monk, he dind'nt need to do anything cept keep up bonds)I then tell him to stop spamming(one is enough), he then rage quits, noob energy management FTL.

Warrior: In the same group, W/mo has full knights set and carries book, uses shields up(holding the book), this w/mo also stated he lost a super vigor by dropping his unsalvaged rune just to show everyone, only to get picked up by another player.

Ele: A previous guildie decided to go on a tombs run, he's lvl16 and wanted to tank -_-; he then told guild leader to stop being an ass hole cause its possible, and that we should've bought 3 monks so he can tank, leader got pissed, left, ele got booted out of guild, this was a trapper group BTW.

Ranger: on another tombs run(barrage) I stated we needed a puller, I appointed one cause he had dragos flatbow. He agreed, and proceeded to run up to mobs, and then run back -_- using his aggro circle to pull.

Necro: Minion Master summoning bone horrors -_-

Mesmer: Conjure phantasm, not particularly too dumb but w/ so many effective mesmer skills, waste of slot, the classic backfire on warrs and empathy on casters is great.

And whats wrong with that? when your Bone fiends is recharging and you get the chance to summon somthing i always summon a Horror.... I think that you dont have a necromancer yourself otherwise you would understand why a necromancer would summon a bone horror.

*Drinks some coffee*

yesitsrob · Apr 16, 2006, 12:10 PM // 12:10

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Mesmer: Conjure phantasm, not particularly too dumb but w/ so many effective mesmer skills, waste of slot, the classic backfire on warrs and empathy on casters is great.

you really think conjure is a waste of a slot? ... lol. It's a great cover hex, with mantra of persistence it can be around 300 damage over time with decent levels in inspiration and illusion... plus you can use the inspiration for energy managent allowing you to spread a lot of conjures, it's a significant amount of degen, it recharges fast, not too bad at 10 energy. It's really not a wasted slot at all.
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I've just had some laughs in randoms at the much feared heal party warrior.

I was also very close to death and all the other warrior chasing me had to do was hit me ( i was at about 50 healths suffering minor degen), instead he opted to use dolyak signet, I ran away (technically i could have crawled away), heal sigged. And then proceeded to kill him, quite funny. I get quite a laugh at the dolyak signet and flurry warriors

Avarre · Apr 16, 2006, 01:49 PM // 13:49

In PvE, conjure is an abominable waste of a slot. I think that's what was meant.

Evilsod · Apr 16, 2006, 01:58 PM // 13:58

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Originally Posted by Avarre

In PvE, conjure is an abominable waste of a slot. I think that's what was meant.

Depends what your using it for. If your dumb enough to target the enemy that your entire team is killing then your bound to waste it. Its nice when your going to solo some Mursaat/Jades too

B Ephekt · Apr 16, 2006, 04:37 PM // 16:37

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Originally Posted by Avarre

Not gonna go into it, but outside of UW echoing SS is a huge waste in my opinion. If a level 29 mob dies in 2SS + Desecrate, why you would need echo spam in FoW? There are a lot of more effective things you could be doing with that skill slot and 15 energy than casting another SS... you have 8 skills, the purpose is not to use them to repeat 1 as much as possible.

Well, if I was playing low level areas I wouldn't echo SS, but how often do you farm charr? Krytia? Or Magumma? IN UW and FoW echoing SS makes things die faster, which equals shorter runs which equals more runs a night, which equals more shards a night. Yeah, I can think of a skill or two that could fill that ONE extra slot I would gain by dropping AC but it certainly won't help the proficiency of the run as much as echoing SS does.

Also, I'd have to say any SS necro only using 2 SSes on aataxes is rather bad. Or either the monk is bad and only aggroing 3 at a time.

NecroJohn · Apr 16, 2006, 04:39 PM // 16:39

W/Mo: resurrect in RA = owned in 6 secs

Da Cebuano · Apr 16, 2006, 05:17 PM // 17:17

Its still dumb, I can understand that you use it and you want to defend it, but its still dumb(opinion). Also My necro comment, waste of carcas IMHO, yeah the recharge is the cause, but you're better off waiting for it then wasting it on horrors.

yesitsrob · Apr 16, 2006, 05:38 PM // 17:38

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Originally Posted by Da Cebuano

Its still dumb, I can understand that you use it and you want to defend it, but its still dumb(opinion). Also My necro comment, waste of carcas IMHO, yeah the recharge is the cause, but you're better off waiting for it then wasting it on horrors.

Right, er... my bad, I wasn't really stating the use of conjure phantasm from a pve point of view.

Skills being good or not isn't much of an opinion thing... eg, Eviscerate is good (fact), Skull Crack sucks (fact).. Conjure Phantasm is a good skill (fact)

Da Cebuano · Apr 16, 2006, 07:36 PM // 19:36

And your fact = everybody elses fact? no, you're treating your opinion as fact = false. Evi is good = fact, that goes w/o saying but conjure? uhhmm.. it can be argued w/ both sides having valid explanations.

So conjure good = fact, conjure bad = fact, or we can just call them both opinions and save the head ache, in which I think its a piece of crap, I posted my opinion w/o any regards to what other people think. Its cause the titles say "post what the dumbest thing YOU'VE seen a profession do" meaning my POV, its very pointless to argue someone's thoughts don't you think?

yesitsrob · Apr 17, 2006, 12:20 AM // 00:20

You posted that the dumbest thing you've seen a mesmer do is use conjure phantasm, I felt like arguing it because a significant amount of mesmer builds I run use it. That is all. And I don't run dumb builds, and I'm not a dumb player.

MMSDome · Apr 17, 2006, 12:37 AM // 00:37

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Originally Posted by Da Cebuano

I love this thread, made me chuckle quite a bit, I'll add a few:

MOnk: Runs bond on oro run but no Blessed sig and spams I have 2_40 energy!! over and over again at the very beginning of the run(yeah the first mob), spams healing breeze on other players(I'm dedicated heal monk, he dind'nt need to do anything cept keep up bonds)I then tell him to stop spamming(one is enough), he then rage quits, noob energy management FTL.

Warrior: In the same group, W/mo has full knights set and carries book, uses shields up(holding the book), this w/mo also stated he lost a super vigor by dropping his unsalvaged rune just to show everyone, only to get picked up by another player.

Ele: A previous guildie decided to go on a tombs run, he's lvl16 and wanted to tank -_-; he then told guild leader to stop being an ass hole cause its possible, and that we should've bought 3 monks so he can tank, leader got pissed, left, ele got booted out of guild, this was a trapper group BTW.

Ranger: on another tombs run(barrage) I stated we needed a puller, I appointed one cause he had dragos flatbow. He agreed, and proceeded to run up to mobs, and then run back -_- using his aggro circle to pull.

Necro: Minion Master summoning bone horrors -_-

Mesmer: Conjure phantasm, not particularly too dumb but w/ so many effective mesmer skills, waste of slot, the classic backfire on warrs and empathy on casters is great.

conjure phantasm has its uses in its certain builds as do all other mesmers skills. Put it in the right place and it will work effectivly, especially a degen build. It is not fair to say its a bad skill because its effective and it only cost 10 energy. Mesmers skills are pricey on energy so you cant go with all 15 energy spells which are the best.

dumbest things ive seen:
-Monk bring restore life on an oro farm
-Monk waits till half life to heal.(this catches up sooner or later and costs you to not kill Bortak >: (